Treba da postanu državljani prvo...

Nadji advokata za Social Security
Ja koliko znam treba ti najmanje 10 godina radnog staza i Americko državljanstvo da bih primao penziju van Amerike.
I ako ostanu i Srbiji duže od godinu dana izgubice pravo i na green kartu. Raspitaj se kod dobrog advokata u Americi moraces da nadjes i Immigration advokata i nekog koji se bavi Social Security pitanjima.
Srećno.

Nije tačno da ne moras biti državljanin. U mnogim slučajevima moras. Procitaj ovde ako znaš engleski:

Who can get Supplemental Security Income?
Generally, if you are a noncitizen in one of certain immigration categories granted by the Department of Homeland Security, you may be eligible for SSI if:

•You were lawfully living in the United
•States on August 22, 1996, and you are blind or disabled;
•You were receiving SSI on August 22, 1996, and you are lawfully living in the United States; or
•You were lawfully admitted for permanent residence under the Immigration and Nationality Act (INA) and have a total of 40 credits of work in the United States. (Your spouse’s or parent’s work also may count.)
Important: If you entered the United States on or after August 22, 1996, then you may not be eligible for SSI for the first five years as a lawfully admitted permanent resident even if you have 40 qualifying credits of earnings.

Some other noncitizens who may be eligible for SSI payments are:

•Active duty members of the U.S. armed forces;
•Noncitizen members of federally recognized Indian tribes;
•Certain noncitizens admitted as Amerasian immigrants; and
•Cuban/Haitian entrants under the Refugee Education Assistance Act.
There are other noncitizens who may be eligible for payments. If you are a noncitizen and want to apply for SSI benefits, it is best to contact us to see if you are eligible.

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Seven-year limit for some noncitizens
Some refugees and other noncitizens can get SSI for up to seven years. If your SSI payments are limited to seven years because of your particular noncitizen status, we will send you a letter telling you when your seven-year period ends. We will send you another letter explaining your rights to appeal before we stop your payments.

If you are a current or former SSI recipient subject to SSI eligibility under the seven-year time limit, we encourage you to contact the U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) to find out how to:

•Expedite processing of your pending naturalization (N-400) or adjustment of status (I-485) application; and

•Waive fees for the cost associated with filing your application.

You (or your representative) may call USCIS toll-free at 1-800-375-5283 (wait for the SSI option on the main menu), or 1-800-767-1833 if you are deaf or hard of hearing (TTY), and request expedited processing. You also may request expedited processing in writing or by going to the local USCIS office. Be sure to tell them that you are a current or former SSI recipient. To learn more about fee waivers, call USCIS at the toll-free number shown above, contact your local USCIS office or visit the USCIS website at www.USCIS.gov/feewaiver.



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Imported_from_Serbia,
Gledao sam na internetu i konacno nasao nešto konkretno. Pogledaj sajt: http://www.ssa.gov/pubs/10137.html#how

Piše: ako nisi državljanin SAD-a, onda jedino ako si državljanin odredjenih zemalja možeš da primas SS.

If you are not a U.S. citizen or a citizen of one of the other countries listed above, your payments will stop after you have been outside the United States for six full calendar months unless you meet one of the following exceptions:

You were eligible for monthly Social Security benefits for December 1956; or
You are in the active military or naval service of the United States; or
The worker on whose record your benefits are based had railroad work treated as covered employment by the Social Security program; or
The worker on whose record your benefits are based died while in the U.S. military service or as a result of a service-connected disability and was not dishonorably discharged; or
You are a resident of a country with which the United States has a Social Security agreement.

Currently, these countries are:
Australia
Austria
Belgium
Canada
Chile
Czech Republic
Denmark
Finland
France
Germany
Greece
Ireland
Italy
Japan
Korea (South)
Luxembourg
Netherlands
Norway
Poland
Portugal
Spain
Sweden
Switzerland
United Kingdom

If you are not a U.S. citizen and none of these exceptions applies to you, your payments will stop after you have been outside the United States. for six full months. Once this happens, your payments cannot be started again until you come back and stay in the United States for a whole calendar month. You have to be in the United States on the first minute of the first day of a month and stay through the last minute of the last day of that month. In addition, you may be required to prove that you have been lawfully present in the United States for the full calendar month.

Nije mi jasno jel ovde govori samo o mogućnosti >slanja< para u drugu zemlju, ili se radi o „eligibility”. Čini mi se da je ipak ovo drugo...

„Tamo su radili 7 godina te bi ukoliko je moguće da dobiju nešto penzije na osnovu toga staza...”
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Ukratko, na njihovu zalost, (u prevodu) nije moguće i ne može se doplatiti/kupiti dodatni krediti!

Credits required to receive benefits
Updated 09/21/2011 03:21 PM | ID# 424

How many credits do I need to receive benefits?

You need 40 Social Security credits to be eligible for retirement benefits.
To earn the credits, you must earn wages in a job covered by Social Security or have net income from self-employment. You cannot buy credits towards the 40 credits required for Social Security Retirement.

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Pozz svima

Svi ovde na forumu su u pravu ali dijelimicno, naime svi bash svi mijesaju dva razlicita pojma SSI i SS sto u naj jednostavnijem prevodu znaci Socijalna pomoć i Penzija.

Dakle ako su tvoji rodielji radili 7 godina i stari su preko 65 godina imaju pravo na SSI (socijalnu pomoć) pod uslovom da žive u Americi i ta socijalna pomoć se ne može prenijeti u bilo koju drugu državu bez obzira imash li ili ne državljanstvo.

Da bi stekao Americku penziju kratko zvanu SS (Social security) morash imati 40 kredita i biti stariji od 65 odnosno 67 godina ili imati 40 kredita i biti nesposoban (psihicki ili fizicki ili oboje) da radish u bilo kojem kapacitetu za bilo koji posao.

Znam mnogo nashih ljudi ovde koji bi i tekako zeljeli da se vrate iako su Americki državljani i ponesu taj SSI sa sobom ali im to nije moguće zato ostaju u Americi do smrti jer koliko toliko imaju neki novac oko $770 dolara mijesechno plus zdrastvenu zashtitu.

Nisam strucnjak ali ovo jako dobro znam, i nadam se da sam bar malo razjasnio sliku.

Sličan slučaj imam. Ali samo pet godina rada i 20 kredita i oko deset hiljada $ u tom SS. Imam 66 god starosti. Zbog permanentne povrede vrata tamo, ogranicena mi je radna sposobnost i morao sam nazad u Srbiju.Sada znam da mi je najgora odluka u zivotu bila da odem u usa. Pitanje je, da li bih mogao taj novac da uzmem, sve odjednom, i kako odavde ne mogu nazad tamo, nakon sedam godina boravka van usa, posto je to moj novac. Posle povrede na poslu, (povreda glave i vrata) onesvescen sam udarcem u glavu od pozadi viljuskarem ili metalnom polugom, ništa od toga slučaja se ne secam a svedoci (mex. i dva Americka Afrikanca) su odbili da svedoce i advokati koji su slučaj vodili za odstetu odustali su zbog mog povratka u Srbiju, kojim sam prekinuo i proces, mogućnost za green card.
Pošto je ovo aktuelna tema ocekujem neki savet.

Pozdrav:
Ako ima neko da mi pomogne naime radi se jedna moja prijateljica je americki penzioner radila u Cikagu i ima americki pasos a sada živi u srbiju .Kada bi se mi vencali i posle njejzine smrti dali bi bio ja naslednik te americke penzije ja sam dosta mladji od gospodje.
Unaprijed hvala svima koji mogu da mi pomognu i daju pravi komentar na moje pitanje.