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Goldcorp
norijega
2014-11-20 11:32 AM
Ovo je interesantna vest. Znaci kompaniji Goldcorp se isplati da investiraju i otvaraju nove rudnike i po ovoj niskoj ceni zlata.

http://www.kitco.com/news/2014-11-20/Canada-s-Goldcorp-to-inaugurate-Argentine-gold-silver-mine-in-February... ml

Canada's Goldcorp to inaugurate Argentine gold, silver mine in February
EFE Ingles
Thursday November 20, 2014 4:33 AM

Buenos Aires , Nov 20 (EFE).- Canada's Goldcorp will formally inaugurate its Cerro Negro gold and silver mine in Argentina in February, a project that required an investment outlay of 14.2 billion pesos ( $1.7 billion ) in the construction phase, officials said.

Argentine Mining Secretary Jorge Mayoral met Wednesday with Goldcorp's head of operations for Central and South America , Eduardo Villacorta , to analyze final construction work at Cerro Negro, located near the town of Perito Moreno in the southern province of Santa Cruz .

The mine is expected to be formally inaugurated in February, the Mining Secretariat said in a statement.

The mine will have an operational lifespan of 23 years and a production capacity of 4,000 tons per day of gold and silver concentrate, officials said.

Goldcorp says on its Web site that Cerro Negro „poured first gold” in July of this year and that 2014 production is expected to come in at between 130,000 and 180,000 gold ounces.

Cerro Negro is the second investment foray into Argentina by the Vancouver -based miner, which also has a 37.5 percent stake in the Alumbrera copper project in that South American country's northwestern region. EFE
Profesor-Kanada
(Profesor)
2014-11-20 03:14 PM

Prošlog meseca CEO od Goldcorp je izjavio, da bi zeleo
da cena zlata ode juzno, to bi omogućilo Goldcorp da
kupi nekoliko rudnika zlata po veoma snizenoj ceni.
Profesor-Kanada
(Profesor)
2014-11-20 03:30 PM
Samo za primer i informaciju:

Yamana Gold Inc.

cena akcije pre nedelju dana oko $3.50.

danas $4.50

2013 preko $20.00.

malimx6
(KOCOBO)
2014-11-20 10:12 PM
profesore, to što je YRI bio 3.5 prije nedelju dana a sada 4.5, da li mislis da je dno tu ili se ocekuje da će zlato još pasti dole?
kad je ovo zadnji put zlato palo dole prije par sedmica, gledao sam nekog lika koji tvrdi da će zlato ići dole I da zlato ide dole zato što je sentiment bearish. Da li se to okrece trenutno ili je I dalje sentiment bearish a ovaj „skok” privremen?
Profesor-Kanada
(Profesor)
2014-11-21 10:26 AM

Malim, preporucujem ti da procitas nekoliko clanaka
na www.123gold.com, to su osobe koje prate kretanje cene
zlata 24/7. To čitaj svaki dan.

Pratim rudnike zlata. Za sada još nisam primetio da
će cena zlata ići naglo severno.

Ovih dana pored Kine i Indije, Rusija kupuje zlato na
veliko.

Za buduce vreme od 1.5 do 3 godine (moje mišljenje),
zlato će biti jedan od boljih investicija da se zarade
pare za naše penzije.

Za zadnjih 18 meseci, ETF fondovi zlata imaju gubitke
u potfoliju oko 90%.

Svi znamo da manipulacija zlata utice na pravac kretanja.

U ovoj godine , jednog jutra u 10:17am cena zlata je
bila $37.00 pozitivna, a na zatvaranju je pala
na - $17.00.

'Neko' je napravio dobru zaradu.

$1,100 je glavno pitanje, da li probija ili se odbija
i kreće severno.
Profesor-Kanada
(Profesor)
2014-11-21 10:30 AM
malimx6
(KOCOBO)
2014-11-21 09:08 PM
hvala profesore, to sam I primjetio onako 'početnicki' gledajuci u grafikon, ne vidim neki nagli skok koliko su rudnici se rasprodali I onda naglo skocili zadnjih par sedmica. Praticu zlato I cekam da ovaj 'dead cat bounce' se zavrsi pa da kupim HGD. Da li neko misli da je to pogresan potez? naravno ovo pitanje se NE odnosi na orisnog I preriju...oni ne prate zlato :P
Prerija
2014-11-21 09:17 PM
Kaži po kojoj ceni udjes u taj zlatni stock pa će da pratimo :)
malimx6
(KOCOBO)
2014-11-21 09:25 PM
sto ja tebi treba da polazem racune?
Prerija
2014-11-21 10:02 PM
ko kaže da je to polaganje racuna kad ne trgujes sa mojim parama? nema logike.

Taurus
2014-11-21 10:20 PM
Profesore slazem se sa tobom u potpunosti. Upravo sam resio da na jednom od „sporednih” racuna napravim zaokret u korist zlata jer se radi o dugorocnom racunu.
Zlato se već godinu i po dana vrti na ovom nivou i kad krene na gore , teško će ga zaustaviti. Panika, manipulacije i ko zna šta još će se ukljuciti u igru...

Malime pazi šta uzimas, verovatno si mislio na HGU !
Ja ću umesto ETF-s verovatno kombinovati gigante sa juniorima, recimo Goldcorp i Eagle Hill Exploration koji je trenutno 2.5 centa. U slučaju velikog skoka cene zlata, juniori mogu da skoce i po nekoliko hiljada procenata ! EAG je nekada bio i preko 50 centi , sa ove cene na taj nivo, procenat bi bio upravo 2 hiljade
Profesor-Kanada
(Profesor)
2014-11-21 10:43 PM

Kada cena zlata krene severno, profesionalni manageri
kupuju sledeće rudnike zlata:

Agnico-Eagle Mines Ltd

Goldcorp Inc

Franco-Nevada Corp
Profesor-Kanada
(Profesor)
2014-11-21 11:10 PM

'Intermediate' kompanije rudnika zlata, kada cena zlata
krene severno, imaju veću sansu od senior kompanija zlata
za mnogo veci procenat zarade.

Taurus je objavio za juniore.
„U slučaju velikog skoka cene zlata, juniori mogu da skoce
i po nekoliko hiljada procenata.”

Malim, lično izbegavam ETF sa H. Management pokupi sav
profit.
Napravi svoj portfolio od kombinacije rudnika zlata.

Profesor-Kanada
(Profesor)
2014-11-22 12:11 AM
Profesor-Kanada
(Profesor)

28. februar 2014. u 15.37

Realista,

Goldcorp je bio oko $21 a sada je oko $31/32.

Ranije sam predlozio Franco Nevada oko $26.

*************************************************
Gornji komentar pre 8.5 meseci.

Goldcorp je sada oko $23.00 a pre kratkog vremena
bio je ispod $20.00.
Taurus
2014-11-28 10:35 PM
Šta se desilo, kompjuterska greška ili šta ?
Zlato preko noćiskocilo za 22% ...
Vise na ovom clanku:

http://www.fxstreet.com/analysis/gold-investments-market-update/2014/11/26/04/

Dali neko zna o kakvom to referendumu za zlato pricaju u nedelju ???
Profesor-Kanada
(Profesor)
2014-11-28 11:10 PM
Taurus, referendum je za zlato u Svajcerskoj.

I. Da se zabrani prodaja reserve zlata od svih banaka.

II. Sve reserve zlata, banke moraju da drže u Svajcerskoj.

III. Svaka banka morace da poseduje 20% od svoje vrednosti
u zlatu. Vremenski period za to je dve gdine.

Rusija je do prvog Oct/2014 ove godine kupila preko 125%
vise zlata nego za 12 meseci u 2013.
malimx6
(KOCOBO)
2014-11-30 07:34 PM
ne vidim da je zlato skocilo 22%
Taurus
2014-12-01 11:28 AM
Ne vidis dobro ?
Profesor-Kanada
(Profesor)
2014-12-02 10:05 AM
Juče su cene akcija od 10 rudnika zlata otisle severno,
od 12% za #10(Yamana Gold) do 19% za #1 (Allied Nevada Gold).

Yamana Gold pratim i kada cena padne oko $4, ulazi u selekciju.
Iz selekcije, kada dodje prava cena, dolazi kupo/prodaja.

Manipulacija profesionalaca još ne prestaje.

Profesor-Kanada
(Profesor)
2014-12-04 10:25 AM

Veoma negativna vest za naše susede. Kod njih 'junk bond
markets' ima preko 15% 'oil related bonds'.

Ove menice/bonds su u kriticnoj situaciji. Vrlo lako
mogu da bankrotiraju. To bi uticalo na pad berze i
pad nekretnina/real estate u izvsnim lokacijama.

malimx6
(KOCOBO)
2014-12-07 01:50 PM
profesore, zašto za susede samo? zar nije loše i za kanadu?
Profesor-Kanada
(Profesor)
2014-12-07 03:00 PM
Malim,

Oko 40% junior 'Fracking oil and gas' kompanija
kod naših suseda su zaustavili proizvodnju.

Te kompanije nisu mogle da dobiju zajam od banke i zato
su prodali 'junk bonds'. Cena za te obaveznice je pala
preko 90%, pošto te firme nisu u mogućnosti da placaju
kamatu.

Kod suseda su registrovali hiljade kompanija te vrste.
Kanada ima vrlo mali broj.

Tvoju preporucenu kompaniju WCP.T, stavio sam u moju
selekcuju. Cekam za povoljniju cenu. Placaju dividende
preko 6%.



Fracking oil and gas
malimx6
(KOCOBO)
2014-12-07 07:14 PM
profesore, i ja cekam wcp da kupim po povoljnijoj cijeni. Ako probije ovaj suport oko $12 onda će sigurno otici na $8.

COS.TO već smanjuje dividendu. prošle sedmice je imao veliki pad. Na ljeto je bio oko $27 a sada je oko $10 - ovo pišem iz sijecanja samo, mislim da se vrtio tu negdje oko tih cijena.

samo ako cijena nafte ode još dole ili bude niska duže vrijeme, sve te dividende će se ukinuti.

na drugu ruku, enb.to je skocio. vidicemo da li je to bio skok da se rasproda ili će nastaviti sa rastom.
Profesor-Kanada
(Profesor)
2014-12-07 11:17 PM
Malim,

WCP je jedna od vrhunskih srednjih kompanija nafte. Ako se
secam, prodalisu oko 40% godisnje proizvodnje po $90.00 barrel
'forward contract'. Dobar potez managmenta.

WCP 52wk Range:

11.05 - 18.70
Profesor-Kanada
(Profesor)
2014-12-07 11:20 PM
Malim, dajem ti kredit, prvi si objavio WPC.
malimx6
(KOCOBO)
2014-12-08 06:27 PM
nisam je izmislio lol al' hvala :D
Profesor-Kanada
(Profesor)
2014-12-09 09:52 AM
Malim, ako imaš vremena pogledaj YRI.T. Ovih dana je oko $4,
pre godinu dana bio je oko $25.

Taurus je zasluzio da se odmara sa temeraturom od 78.
Ne dostaju njegovi komentari. Taurus uzivaj.
malimx6
(KOCOBO)
2014-12-09 05:42 PM
hvala profesore, cekacu da malo opadne tj. da vidim šta će biti sa zlatom.

na grafikonu za zlato izgleda mi da se trenutno formira bullish divergence. možda će još zlato ići gore dole u manjem opsegu, zato bi radije sacekao da vidim šta će biti, međutim dosta pozitivnih vijesti u zadnje vrijeme u vezi zlata izlazi.
Profesor-Kanada
(Profesor)
2014-12-10 09:52 AM
Malim, potpuno se slazem sa tvojim komentarom za zlato.

malimx6
(KOCOBO)
2014-12-10 04:12 PM
zašto onda neki govore da će zlato imati onaj rally i da će otici ispod $1000? recimo kao sto jim rogers tvrdi. a taj isti jim rogers je 2013te rekao da će zlato na kraju godine (te 2013te) biti skuplji nego na početku, a desilo se obrnuto.
Taurus
2014-12-13 08:18 AM
Samo da se prijavim.
Vratio sam se, ali sad treba da se još malo odmorim od odmora :)
Taurus
2014-12-13 08:50 PM
Preziveo sam nedelju dana bez interneta !
Po povratku, prvo sto sam ugledao je cena gasa na pumpama od 101 cent za litar !!!
Taurus
2014-12-13 09:13 PM
na grafikonu za zlato izgleda mi da se trenutno formira bullish divergence.
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Šta je to divergence :)

Najbolji signal za bullish trend će biti ako je skok cene podrzan sa visokim prometom - volume.
Taurus
2014-12-13 09:18 PM
Malime nisam ti odgovorio sa onaj skok cene zlata od 22%.

To je trajalo jako kratko, i na grafikonima se neće videti ako pratis kretanje cene vece od 1 minut.
malimx6
(KOCOBO)
2014-12-14 02:36 PM
ako pogledas cijenu zlata u zadnjih možda godinu dana, vidices da pravi lower lows dok RSI svaki put napravi higher high. To je navodno bullish divergence.
Profesor-Kanada
(Profesor)
2016-04-03 06:45 PM
Ko je kandidat za ovo?

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